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For those of you who are wondering whether or not its worth it - because of fuel costs - to trade in your favorite vehicle of all time (the Commander) for a wussy little fuel saving crackerjack box, the below link will give you an idea about how long you'd have to drive around looking like a trendy enviro-nut before you even break even.

The system assumes you actually own your trade-in outright, so if you want a true number, you need to add in what you owe to the price of the fuel-efficient vehicle you "want."

I did a little test run and decided to pretend to trade in my baby ('06 Limited with HEMI [which isn't even an option on their list]) for a Honda Civic Hybrid. Based on the value of the vehicles and the current price of gas, it would take me 255 months (21 1/4 YEARS) to break even on gas.

And I don't think a 4.7 bumper would go on the Civic very well.

The moral of the story is, if you are trading in your baby for a fuel efficient econobox, you probably don't deserve the XK in the first place! :) AND, whoever gets your lightly used XK will get a hell of a deal! :)

http://www.edmunds.com/calculators/gas-guzzler.html

Please be aware that my remarks should be taken with a tone of sarcasm and I really don't have anything against XK traders (traitors? :) ).
 

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They do not have the 5.7 Hemi, but If I were to trade my commander for a 2008 smart it states I would save $47.30 per month. Guess I will have to own both!
 

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Haha thats halarious! I feel bad for all the old commander owners who have recently traded in their commanders for a more fuel efficient vehicle.
 

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Same here. I did the calcs with my BMWs in the mix and it would take me 117 months (9.5 years) to break even again. So guess what, I'm keeping my XK and getting rid of my BMWs for one convertible BMW for her.
 

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They do not have the 5.7 Hemi, but If I were to trade my commander for a 2008 smart it states I would save $47.30 per month. Guess I will have to own both!
Right, but how long would it take for you to break even? The calculation assumes you are trading your gas guzzler for an econobox. I guess it would be possible to have more value in a used gas guzzler than the new econobox costs outright, so in that case, someone could walk away from a trade with cash in his pocket and better fuel economy, which would mean saving money from day one.

However, if you decide to keep your gas guzzler and purchase a Smart as an additional vehicle, then the calculations are a bit different. Assuming approximatley $15,000 for the purchase price of the Smart, you would have to calculate the difference in fuel economy between the Smart and your Commander and divide that number by the amount of miles driven annually (average). Then you'd have to calculate the amount of money saved using $4.00 (or whatever today's gas prices are in your area) to figure out when you would break even. I suspect it would be at least five years, assuming gas prices hover around the $4.00/gallon mark.
 

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Guess it's a good thing that I don't care :)
 

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Basically if you can afford to have the appearence of "green" go for it. Personally its not me I am scared to death in those tin cans. Nothing more humbling then a sitting at the level of a semi's lug nuts.

I read somewhere and would of posted the link however I didnt want to he dragged across the coals for finding articles that did not agree with populist thinking. A guy estamated that if you purchased a hybrid over a basic econo box you would have to buy 10,000 gallons of gas a year to make up the difference in cost due the hybrids extra costs like insurance.
 

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you almost made me poop my pants when i saw the post. your bumper will be together this week. .. its too late to wuss out now!!!!! its yours! i'll hunt you down, i have secret connections.

PolarBZ said:
For those of you who are wondering whether or not its worth it - because of fuel costs - to trade in your favorite vehicle of all time (the Commander) for a wussy little fuel saving crackerjack box, the below link will give you an idea about how long you'd have to drive around looking like a trendy enviro-nut before you even break even.

The system assumes you actually own your trade-in outright, so if you want a true number, you need to add in what you owe to the price of the fuel-efficient vehicle you "want."

I did a little test run and decided to pretend to trade in my baby ('06 Limited with HEMI [which isn't even an option on their list]) for a Honda Civic Hybrid. Based on the value of the vehicles and the current price of gas, it would take me 255 months (21 1/4 YEARS) to break even on gas.

And I don't think a 4.7 bumper would go on the Civic very well.

The moral of the story is, if you are trading in your baby for a fuel efficient econobox, you probably don't deserve the XK in the first place! :) AND, whoever gets your lightly used XK will get a hell of a deal! :)

http://www.edmunds.com/calculators/gas-guzzler.html

Please be aware that my remarks should be taken with a tone of sarcasm and I really don't have anything against XK traders (traitors? :) ).
 

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Come on now! You know I'd NEVER trade my XK!
 

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Haha thats halarious! I feel bad for all the old commander owners who have recently traded in their commanders for a more fuel efficient vehicle.
You're right. My wife drives her Commander about 12,000 annually. So, it amounts to about $600 more per year based on year over year gas prices. We would spend a lot more than that in interest alone to buy the new hybrid or other vehicle.

We'll modify our driving habits in her vehicle some (I drive my Titan mostly for business, so we have don't much flexibility there). But, we will still enjoy the Commander's utility and safety and use it for the occassional off-road excusion (at least I will without telling her...).
 

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that calculator fails to take into account the negative equity position most XK owners are undoubtedly in. I got 72 mos at 0% apr, so i financed the whole shebang. i guess i owe about 30k or so still. an 06 ltd hemi will trade around 16k...... :::cries and cries:::
Condition Value
Excellent $17,050
Good $16,065
Fair $14,300

and you have to drive crap! what's that worth?
 

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I ran it as we have the '06 4.7 V8 and an '07 Prius, I was interested to see what it would say as I know for a fact that even after some mods I still only average 14 mpg city/highway in the XK and we average 50 in the Prius where we live.

Using $6.25 as a futures predictor (averaged for in 5 years at $8.25/gal), it left me at a 5 year break even point.

With already owning a Prius though (and without getting flamed) some points that I can make. We purchased it Fall '06, knowing where we were headed. I however, can not stand the car even to ride to the supermarket let alone down I95 to work in the tin can - hence my DD is the XK.

One of my last few accounting courses I presented the break even analysis of owning a Prius, purchased when we did prior to the gas crisis. Even though we use it primarily as a commuter (IT consultant) vehicle we are not much farther beyond many American's average annual miles (20,000).

All in all, many things that is not considered in the factoring of 'owning' a Prius is maintenance in 2 years of ownership we have only put in a total of $3000 (including 40,000 miles worth of gas at around $2100) the rest is all for our own synthetic oil changes around $20 a pop and new tires (we chose to do for performance). The car uses regenerative braking, which means me buying brakes at 20,000 miles for the XK, and possibly putting brakes on the Prius once in its 8-10 year ownership.

Adding some math into the factor 'from the real world', even though I really despise the things.

.... I'll keep my XK even if gas hits $12. Guess I'll just 'work from home' some days.
 

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Thanks for posting this info. I think the car companies that make these hybrids are really cleaning up on the general public's ignorance right now. I'm glad that most of us are able to resist the hysteria. The only reason I would still consider buying a tin can, lug-nut sucker, teeny little car is to preserve the longevity of my XK. I too am planning on keeping mine forever and I figure if I can keep a lid on the yearly mileage it'll help me in that goal. But nothing's set in stone now.
 

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You Can't Take A Prius Rock Crawling Can You?

Thats All I'll Say
Now that would be funny, a Prius on 35s!
 

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You cant ( and shouldnt) do much under the hood of any Hybrid. Beware of the big orange cables. Dealers have whats called "The hook",a long fiberglass pole, to pull the fried body of the mechanic off the car if he makes a mistake. Sorry, I am not sold on the Hybrid concept yet. Love my Jeeps! -43:D
 
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