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I just got my almost new 2007 Commander Sport Monday night and absolutely love it so far. I was really torn to get it or not because of the mileage, but I went ahead with it anyway.

I do have one question. Has anyone had a problem with their washer fluid freezing up on them? It was working last night, but not today. Temps here are in the low 20's and aren't expected to be above freezing until next week. I can hear the pump working, but nothing is coming out. Is it possible the fluid is just frozen in the lines or reservoir? I'm hoping that's the case anyway. I don't know what kind of fluid was in it from the previous owner. And I did check to see if it was empty before anyone asks. :)
 

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If the previous owner put plain water in it then it may be frozen, it needs and anti-freeze in those conditions.
 

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That's what I'm afraid of, because it really isn't cold enough for washer fluid to freeze. I've lived in New England my whole life and I've never seen it cold enough to freeze washer fluid. It's not supposed to get above freezing until at least next Wednesday either. :mofo:
 

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It was probably diluted by the previous owner. But you might be able to add some concentrated antifreeze (but not the kind for radiators). I have not shopped for it for years but back in the day you could buy windshield washer concentrate to add to water to keep it from freezing. Check your local auto parts shop. It might be a remedy until you can run through it and put the good stuff in.
 

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I was able to add some regular washer fluid, maybe that will help. I thought it might have been empty, so I tried to fill it up and it only took a little of the jug. The pump works, I know that much because it was working last night, but it was around 37 degrees.
 

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Welcome to the forum wfin73. Where in New England are you?

I grew up in New England (Stafford Springs, CT) and never saw washerfluid freeze. I have seen the nozzles freeze over though.

Also, raise the hood and have someone try the windshield washer and see if there may be a hose disconnected.
 

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Thanks for the Welcome! I grew up in Lisbon, CT, which is just north of Norwich. I actually used to race R/C cars at K/N speedway at the race track when I was a teenager. Now I live in New Bedford, MA. I'll check to see if there are any hoses disconnected, but I doubt it, unless one popped off when something froze, it was working last night.
 

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If you take a tiny bit of Methonal, which you can buy by the 4L jug for a pretty low cost, you can take any washer fluid, even summer, and winterize it. I even add it to my winter washer fluid since it melts ice VERY fast. The key is to use about a shot glass full for each washer fluid top-off. The jug will last you 2-3 years. I've had mine for 4 years now and is still 1/3 full.

Trust me it works well and will not hurt anything.
 

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Where do you get Methonal?
 

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Where do you get Methonal?
Methanol = methyl alcohol. Actually, any alcohol will probably work as alcohol does not freeze. Don't know if it will harm the paint though.
 

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you can buy it at almost any hardware store, such places as Canadian tire. It comes in a 4L black jug.
 

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Methanol, also known as methyl alcohol, carbinol, wood alcohol, wood naphtha or wood spirits, is a chemical compound with chemical formula CH3OH (often abbreviated MeOH). It is the simplest alcohol, and is a light, volatile, colourless, flammable, toxic liquid with a distinctive odor that is very similar but slightly sweeter than ethanol (drinking alcohol). At room temperature it is a polar liquid and is used as an antifreeze, solvent, fuel, and as a denaturant for ethanol. It is also used for producing biodiesel via transesterification reaction.

Methanol is produced naturally in the anaerobic metabolism of many varieties of bacteria, and is ubiquitous in the environment. As a result, there is a small fraction of methanol vapor in the atmosphere. Over the course of several days, atmospheric methanol is oxidized by oxygen with the help of sunlight to carbon dioxide and water.


I normally run straight methanol, but when im in a pinch i'll swing by Home Depot and pick up some denatured alcohol (paint department usually carries both, or atleast around that section).

PS you can pick up 5 gallon containers of methenol for around 25-30 bucks from one of your local pertroluem compaines
 

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It won't harm your paint because it is diluted in washer fluid so much that is not harmful. no more than usual washer fluid... it just has a tiny bit more of a punch.
 

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Wow. Great info. All I could say is somebody made stuff back in the day. Very diverse group of people on this forum who know a lot!
 

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Great info, thanks for sharing. I might pick some up today. It's supposed to get really cold here tonight-record low (whatever that might be out here in Philly) but I bet it wouldn't hurt.
 

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Just remember to use only a shot glass full (roughly) for every 4L (1 Gallon) of washer fluid. Works really well to shed that ice of the windows and ice build up on wiper blades as well.
 

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If the lines remain frozen, you could use the wife's/GF's Hair dryer to apply a little local heat. It's not gonna take much then you will be able to get the new juice through the nozzles.

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