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I just sit here in wonder as to why Chrysler don't do something about the tyre size on the Commander? Why have a car with such a good 4 X 4 drive train and hamper it by limiting it to on road tyres. If they are going to continue with the Commander why not make the modifications required to enable the fitting of sensible size tyres. 90% of the threads on this and all other sites are to do with suspension lifts and maximum tyre sizes.
Well this is a bigger issue in Australia because all the mainstream 4 x 4 eg Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi make up 90% of the SUV market here and they use a minimum of 265 x 65 x 17. If you have a puncture in the middle of nowhere this is the only 17" tyre you can get. Why can't Jeep make the car accept sensible tyres? Or make 2 versions one offroad orientated and one on road . It seems stupid to have a great diesel engine and quadra drive system that digs holes and buries itself because of small tyres. That might be funny in U.S.A but it can mean an outback death in Australia.
Also why should the consumer have to spend so much time and money fixing what should have been done at the design stage. Apparently the Commander is going to be continued, as it should, I for one would hope the Chrysler design people take heed of the forum feedback and sort out the front suspension to take larger tyres. If they don't all they are doing is going down the same path of despair as they were before, I don't think it is a lot to ask for.
Also why is it on the Jeep home page, there is not anywhere to give feedback.:ugh2:
 

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Also why is it on the Jeep home page, there is not anywhere to give feedback.:ugh2:
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Hello Jeep5253.
This exemplifies exactly what I was saying. I tried the links and after spending a large amount of time structuring a request to Jeep and typing it in(which is not my forte) I press the send (go) button. Guess what it won't accept a phone number from Australia or a Australian zip code, absolute waste of time.
I am not having a go just getting extremely frustrated.:rofl:
 

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Hello Jeep5253.
This exemplifies exactly what I was saying. I tried the links and after spending a large amount of time structuring a request to Jeep and typing it in(which is not my forte) I press the send (go) button. Guess what it won't accept a phone number from Australia or a Australian zip code, absolute waste of time.
I am not having a go just getting extremely frustrated.:rofl:
Just make up a phone # and tell them in your text it's not your #.
 

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I totally agree with you, the tire is undersized and even the space around the tire is not enough to fit a good size in a stock suspension.

Also the ground clearance is not enough for such 4x4
 

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Hi Jeep5253,
I tried that it didn't work and more to the point you shouldn't have to make up a number. The company should ensure their website facilitates customer feedback. It is obvious that it is either an oversight on Chryslers part or they are not interested in feedback. When I purchased a Land Rover and also a VW both companies sent a questionaire for owner feedback. One only has to read the various forums to realise there are major issues with the wheel rim backspace and the standard ride hight. If Chrysler makes these changes the modifications will be legal and therefore customers won't be contravening their insurance and local vehicle registration laws.:stickpoke:
 

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I totally agree with you, the tire is undersized and even the space around the tire is not enough to fit a good size in a stock suspension.

Also the ground clearance is not enough for such 4x4
Since I have lifted the XK I have always said that it should have came that height from the factory.

......if only we had wheel well similar to Hummers.
 

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Hello 07jeepXK,
Your list of modifications is exactly what I am talking about, 2"lift and 1.25" spacers to give the desired backspace to fit sensible tyres 265X70X17".
In Australia it is illegal to fit wheel spacers and the maximum legal lift is 2". Also it is illegal to increase the vehicle track by more than 1.5" over the manufacturers specifications. Therefore why don't Chrysler make the Commander fit the requirements for a real 4X4 and make it standard with the 2"lift and the sensible wheel backspace to take normal off road tyres. At present it can only take light duty tyres, heavy duty tyres don't come in the Commander size 245X65X17".
On the other hand they could just make it another in their line up of soft duty recreational vehicles like the Patriot etc. Then they may as well get rid of the Quadra Drive and Low range gearing and while they are at it they may as well raise the roof more and put in a smaller diesel and call it a people mover with attitude. At present that is where it fits, talk about an identity crisis.:rofl:
 

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Also Jeep 5253, while I am on my soap box, why was it on your first reply you stated "if you would like to talk to us" and then "please contact us". Then in your second reply "just make up a number". It would indicate you are actually involved with Jeep I only hope you take the sugestions back to management and make some positive modifications.
The car has the potential of being a terrific 4X4 but the company has to make a serious decision to develop it as a 4x4 not as a oversized soft roader that uses too much fuel. As a 7 seater 4X4 it must be able to cut it off road or forget it.
Fitting different rims with the same backspace and offset as the A.E.V rims (5.25"and +23mm) and lifting the suspension 2" is not a huge change and at least gives the car a chance of being a viable alternative to the Toyota Prado, Nissan Pathfinder, Mitsubishi Pajero and land Rover Discovery.:ugh2:
 

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I think Jeep5253 was quoting from their website when he wrote "us". He is not affiliated with Chrysler, as far as I know.

That aside, I agree that they should have done more with this vehicle, especially considering the "Trail Rated" badge which mine sports.

Mine with the lift and aggressive tires with spacers does look like the way it should have left the factory; but alas, I believe their target on this one was the soccer mom.
 
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