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No More Superlift 4 inch lift kits?????

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Just checked out Superlift web sight 4 inch lift no longer listed.
Called them and they say its no longer available.

Does any one have this kit that will part with it? I meant to purchase one after my engine was rebuild was completed.
 
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Please update signature with your Commander details. It is nice to know what your Commander has in it so we can better help you.

To get the list of everything built into your Commander when built at the factory - have your VIN number and go here Chrysler Build sheet - Equipment Listing
 
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What does updating my signature have to do with Superlift discontinuing the 4 inch 4x4 lift for the Commander?
 
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@Doright Nothing. But Moderator rblapham has asked you to do it. And now I am asking you to do it. That's twice. Please do it now. Thanks.
 
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Maybe later as I dont have VIN close by
 
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You don't need your VIN to make a signature. Just put your year, model trim, engine. and 4WD system.
 
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Just checked out Superlift web sight 4 inch lift no longer listed.
Called them and they say its no longer available.

Does any one have this kit that will part with it? I meant to purchase one after my engine was rebuild was completed.
@Doright ;

I just checked their website & it appears that they do not produce them for the Commander or the WK Grand Cherokee anymore, sad as that is to say;

I'm glad I bought mine when I did.
 
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So just to expand on this;

I just got off the phone with Superlift a few minutes ago and the story I was told, is that Some of the companies that manufactured the individual components (The Electronic Geometry Recalibration module was specifically mentioned - possibly something to do with the Computer Chip Shortage I keep hearing about) supposedly quadrupled their prices, virtually overnight and they would not work with Superlift to give them a more manageable cost for ordering in bulk;

The end result was the cost of the 4 inch Superlift for the WK & the XK became prohibitive, to the point where they were no longer profitable.

I asked if I had a component go bad, would I be able to get any replacement parts through them & he said essentially, the only parts they would probably still have in stock would be the rear shocks, which really doesn't matter - you could replace those shocks with any other shocks that had the correct specs.

The bottom line is for anybody out there like me that has the 4 inch Superlift installed is, if you have a catastrophic failure of any major component - or , if you're Superlift has a lot of miles on it and you want to freshen it up, you will probably wind-up going to a different lift kit, or just mixing & matching individual components of different manufacturers, to achieve the best end result you can come up with.

Superlift can no longer give us any kind of real support, for the 4 inch Superlift.
 
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Are there any 4 inch lifts available for the XK?
 
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@WeldUnit ;

I've seen a couple of kits with 2.5 inch spacers that claim 4 inches of lift, but personally, I wouldn't trust a kit with spacers that large.

I'll keep looking , but, the chances of finding a complete 4 inch suspension lift for the XK now, look bleak.

If you want something of quality, you'd probably have to go to a 4x4 shop and put your own lift together, by buying your own individual components (mix & match as needed) and you'd better have a good size budget.
 
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Has anyone been able to find a 3-4" lift since the last posting? I really want to run 33s when I buy mine and cant find kits anywhere. if there are not kits can some one give me a parts list of what worked for them so achieve that lift? I want it to still ride well so I'm willing to spend the money and do it right.
 
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@GO4WD @Big Blue I think they discontinued making this kit that was used in conjunction with the original 4" super lift. I'll attach pictures for you to see the differences over the years. I highly recommend JBA UCA's. There are other brands out there, however the amount of testing and research that JBA has completed over the years is immense. I still use there version 1 styled UCA. I believe they have a version 2 available with better grease point access.

The JBA 6-8 kit used to be on JBA's website.

The kit contained the following:

1. 6-8 inch adjustable Fox Racing Coil-overs
2. JBA Rear adjust able track bar
3. JBA Rear Lower Control Arms
4. JBA Rear Upper Control Arms
5. JBA Rear 6 inch springs
6. Fox remote reservoir shocks with adjustable LSC (Low Speed Compression)
7. JBA replacement bump stops to account for the addition height in the rear to account for JBA springs.

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1. 6-8 inch JBA Coilover with JBA UCA's


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2. This is the rear: Notice the bump stop extension, coil spring, and remote res fox-shocks

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3. Here are old screen-shot's I found on my hard drive from years ago
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4. Day I picked up the kit from the UPS Shipping depot
 
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@Big Blue @GO4WD Would it be best to provide the build process over the years? I basically tested out each style of lift (2 inch puck lift, 2 inch puck lift stacked with 4 inch super lift, then the conversion to the JBA / super lift set-up). Let me know what would be the best way to do this so that maybe someone can see how it was done to possibly re-create it?
 
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However you think is best @RJ.re ;

I had a similar progression from bone stock, to the 2 inch Rough Country Spacer lift which I ran for about 2 1/2 years, to the 4 inch Superlift, which I've been running for almost 5 years now.

It would be very helpful to see a full side-shot of your Commander, so everybody can see how it actually sits, in relation to the ground, with your JBA lift installed.
 
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Have loads of pictures. I'll include descriptions within each so there isn't any confusion. Which thread should I post it in?

PS: Today is somewhat of an off day so I actually have time to do this!
 
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#23 ·
Have loads of pictures. I'll include descriptions within each so there isn't any confusion. Which thread should I post it in?

PS: Today is somewhat of an off day so I actually have time to do this!
Great, we appreciate it.
 
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Some of the pictures were taken on older iPhones while the newest photos with the updated wheel setup are with a Sony. Let me know if there are specific parts that y'all would like close-ups on. Some of the pictures are not in the greatest quality.

I also took out the rear sway
Here is the link to the Album I created in Adobe: Commander with JBA Coilover suspension 6-8 inch conversion/ with 4" super lift

Jeep Commander:
BFG Goodrich 33" tires w/ pro-comp 69 series rims 17"
sits level with a stock f250
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Some of the pictures were taken on older iPhones while the newest photos with the updated wheel setup are with a Sony. Let me know if there are specific parts that y'all would like close-ups on. Some of the pictures are not in the greatest quality.

I also took out the rear sway
Here is the link to the Album I created in Adobe: Commander with JBA Coilover suspension 6-8 inch conversion/ with 4" super lift

Jeep Commander:
BFG Goodrich 33" tires w/ pro-comp 69 series rims 17"
sits level with a stock f250
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Older photos were those with the black wheels had wheel spacers and photos with silver wheels are without spacers?
 
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Just for clarity, i understand this as a kit to modify an existing superlift 4" kit, not a standalone replacement.
It is pretty cool, and i appreciate your sharing @RJ.re
Yes, that’s right. I did this years ago as well. You have to have the super lift components in order to be able to install the rest of the JBA “red” parts. Back when I purchased the super lift on its own; JBA was selling their products with the super lift. The combo was around 7-8k if I remember correctly.
 
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@Stircrayzy @fshnbob @Big Blue I should be picking the commander up tomorrow. I can get some more close ups underneath and side shots of it too. I just realized this was the forum for superlift alternatives. I didn’t realize that. I’m not sure how my set up would
be of much use to find an alternative.
I will say that if you can find parts for the superlift, slowly piece it together. I have had the superlift on there since 2012 and haven’t had any issues with the components other than normal wear and tear.
 
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@RJ.re

How long ago did you purchase this Superlift modification kit from JBA?

Just trying to ascertain if this is still on the market or not.

I get the feeling that it's not - JBA probably stopped selling them, when the 4 inch Superlift for the Commander, was discontinued I'm guessing.
 
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@Big Blue do you think forum members would be interested if I took the measurements for the JBA Fox Coil-overs so that way it would be possible for FOX to reproduce the additional kit? I have the means to do so; your feedback is greatly appreciated. Please let me know
 
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I did not see any cost estimates for these cool upgrades. I am glad that My Commander is 2wd, it has kept my spending $ in check. The problem with investing so much in a Commander is that you would never get the money back when you go to sell it. So better plan on keeping it and enjoying.
I had a 1977 Ford Bronco Ranger did some mods on it and sold it because I needed to seat more passengers. I bought it for $3500 put $2500 in upgrades and it sold for $45,000. I see the last owner finished upgrading (more lift, exhaust, rear bumper/carrier, and gear change, 35" tires and he will get about $90,000 at auction. (followed the VIN # )
 
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This is the story I was told when I called Superlift 25 months ago, which was pretty much during the peak of the COVID pandemic;

Some of the companies that manufactured the individual components (The Electronic Geometry Recalibration module was specifically mentioned - possibly something to do with the Computer Chip Shortage I keep hearing about) supposedly quadrupled their prices, virtually overnight and they would NOT work with Superlift to give them a more manageable cost, for ordering in bulk.

The end result was, the cost of the 4 inch Superlift for the WK & the XK became so prohibitive, they were no longer profitable to carry & sell.

I asked if I had a component go bad, would I be able to get any replacement parts through them & he said essentially, the only parts they would probably still have in stock would be the rear shocks, which really doesn't matter - you could replace those shocks with any other shocks that have the correct specs (length/travel etc).

The bottom line is for anybody out there like me, that has the 4 inch Superlift installed is, if you have a catastrophic failure of any major component - or , if you're Superlift has a lot of miles on it and you want to freshen it up, you will probably wind-up going to a different lift kit, or just mixing & matching individual components of different manufacturers, to achieve the best end result, that you can come up with.

Superlift can no longer give us any kind of real support, for the 4 inch Superlift.
 
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@Adrian G ;

I'm assuming you're asking about the proposition of a custom lift kit, that was mentioned earlier in this thread.

Unfortunately @RJ.re never came back with the list of suspension components that I asked him for, that would have explained in some detail, exactly what components this custom made lift kit would have come with, so people knew exactly what they were ordering & paying for.

I'm not exactly sure what happened, he never came back to give me any kind of an explanation.

He hasn't been back on the forum since September of 2023 (which is when this dialogue initially took place) so I don't know what happened with him and the "guys over at Tribe 16" that he mentioned.

I have to assume that either he, or Tribe 16, lost interest in the Commander lift-kit project for some reason, maybe they felt there wouldn't be enough interest, but since he never got back to me, I really don't know the answer.
 
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I have had the opportunity to wheel my xk fairly hard now in Death valley area after rebuilding the engine and repairing the heat and AC it's a fairly capable of going just about any where you want within the stock lift ability's. the 4 inch lift would have made the truck perfect.

For hard wheeling big stuff will keep my CJ7, I will be restoring it soon. Meanwhile it's ready 2go! And not afraid of anyhing!
 
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I have had the opportunity to wheel my xk fairly hard now in Death valley area after rebuilding the engine and repairing the heat and AC it's a fairly capable of going just about any where you want within the stock lift ability's. the 4 inch lift would have made the truck perfect.

For hard wheeling big stuff will keep my CJ7, I will be restoring it soon. Meanwhile it's ready 2go! And not afraid of anyhing!
Having a Commander with the 4 inch Superlift & 33 inch tires, I can tell you the extra clearance is great.

I had the Superlift installed back in 2018, but it was not a planned upgrade.

I bought a new set of LT285/70/17 Good Year Wrangler DuraTracs. (33's) had them installed and I couldn't get enough clearance at full turn to clear the AC lines in the front passenger's side wheel well, even with the pinch-weld mod and some trimming of the door sills, I still couldn't clear them.

That left me with 3 options:

1) Stick with the current 31.5 inch tires I had.

2) Try & add wheel spacers large enough, to see if they would give me the necessary clearance.

3) Upgrade from the current 2 inch RC spacer lift that I had to the 4 inch Superlift.

For my tastes, 1 & 2 just were not options I was willing to accept.

It cost a lot more money then I wanted to spend, especially since everything was professionally installed & I also had my factory front lower control arms replaced, with a brand new set of Moog LCAs at the same time.

But I told myself, well if not now - then when?

So, I decided to take the plunge and looking back on it and seeing the complete & utter lack of availability today, I'm so glad that I did.

I'm not much for rock-crawling, or mudding.

That said, any trail that I ride on, I have a lot of confidence, that there isn't anything that I'll encounter, that I can't get through.
 
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Nice looking Rig!
With those beefy 35" x 12.50" tires, I would replace those 7.5" stock wheels before ever taking it offroad, or even taking any curves at much speed. My local tire shop refused to mount that size on 8" wheels, so I bought some 10" wheels (not a Commander a 77 Bronco)!
Good luck with your purchase!
 
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It was my understanding that a 33 inch tire was preaty much be the biggest tire you could get under a 4 inch suspension lift on the Comander.
I have to say those in no way look as big as the set of 35s 12.50 that i have for my CJ.

While I can get the 35s on my CJ with the curent 4 inch lift I cant drive it with them on it they rub every where. I would have t o say their would be no way 35s will fit under the xk with just a 4 inch suspension lift. Not with out rubbing and tearing them up.
 
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It was my understanding that a 33 inch tire was preaty much be the biggest tire you could get under a 4 inch suspension lift on the Comander.
I have to say those in no way look as big as the set of 35s 12.50 that i have for my CJ.

While I can get the 35s on my CJ with the curent 4 inch lift I cant drive it with them on it they rub every where. I would have t o say their would be no way 35s will fit under the xk with just a 4 inch suspension lift. Not with out rubbing and tearing them up.
I can tell you first hand experience @Doright , that this is true.

There are some guys that have put on tires larger than 33 inches - but they either added large wheel spacers, extra spacers to their current lift, done a ridiculous amount of cutting and fab work, or they did it really half-a$$ed and have rubbing at full turn and just don't care about it.

It can be done, but I wouldn't feel very comfortable with any of those solutions, particularly adding extra spacers to an existing lift, which creates a lot of extra stress on some of your suspension parts.

That being said, why anybody would put the 4 inch Superlift and tires of that size, on a 3.7L V6 Commander is a complete mystery to me.

I owned an '08 3.7L V6 WK for almost 4 yrs prior to getting my Commander, so I'm very familiar with the power & torque that the platform produces.

Not to mention that an XK is approximately 700-800 lbs heavier than a WK, based on the curb weight & gross vehicle weight of each.

Based on my prior experience with my '08 3.7L V6 WK and the current set-up on my '08 XK, I think I'm in a pretty good position to weigh in on this with a fair amount of accuracy.

A 3.7L V6 XK with the 4 inch Superlift with 33-35 inch tires (assuming that all of that is true & accurate) would not perform, or handle well in my opinion.

I will also tell you that I'm almost certain, you can't get a 35 inch tire on our stock 17 x 7.5 inch rims, the tire would be too wide for the tire bead to seal properly.

You need rims that are at least 17 x 8 to safely fit just a 33 inch tire, if memory serves me correctly.

That said, in my opinion, there is just not enough power & torque in a 3.7L V-6, to handle that amount of lift and tires of that size & weight, with any kind of efficiency.

I think it would be significantly under-powered & the handling would be very sluggish.

Not to mention the prior owner has probably be taken years off the life expectancy of that engine & transmission, if it was driven with any kind of regularity.